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153 This John Holdren story is too, too much. We've been railing on this guy for the past three years and now we hear that Romney is linked to him? Jesus. I guess it ties in nicely to his "pro-life" views.

He needs to explain this. This guy is a freak. To call Romney a RINO after reading about this is an insult to those Maine twits.

Posted by: lu at October 15, 2011 04:59 PM (5QeRe)

154 speaking of California, don't they have significant
oil there even without offshore drilling? There are all sorts of oil
fields in the central valley and stuff. Are they tapped out? Posted by: jeanne!

Though much of the easily recovered oil has been tapped, CA is 4th or 5th biggest state in oil production. However, I've been told much of the product is low grade, high salt content oil.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 15, 2011 04:59 PM (kt1UQ)

155 This is pathetic from our side.

No. Pathetic is ignoring the facts.
Sarah is a personality, not a candidate.

Posted by: garrett at October 15, 2011 05:00 PM (Gq0t1)

156 RECIPE for 2012
1 -Resolve to forego internecine squabbles.
2 -Diligently research candidates. (POTUS to dogcatcher)
3 -Become involved in local party activities.
4 -Vote your preference in the primary.
5 -Invest heavily in brass, copper and lead. (Potentially valuable from election night through ?)
6 -For the first time, I'm advocating voting straight Republican ticket on election day. Again, POTUS to dogcatcher. Sheer numbers should result in a hopefully useful cadre of conservatives.
7 -Immediately upon inauguration/installation to office, begin daily campaign of reminders to each elected offical of who they work for and what we expect of them.

Posted by: Burnt Swamp Catawampus at October 15, 2011 05:00 PM (BKfzm)

157 it takes 2 to create a split. You could easily turn it around and say Perry is causing the split.
But then you'd also have to say it was Cain causing it, Gingrich causing it, and Bachmann causing it.
It's pretty much Romney dude.
Anyone but Romney. If Perry is unacceptable to too many people, then the hell with him. But Romney is a non-starter.
Who are the Libertarians running next year anyway...

Posted by: Entropy at October 15, 2011 05:02 PM (dn7cw)

158 LTC Graham

Obama's the incumbent and the press will eat Perry alive for calling Obama's bluffs the lies that they are. McCain will bluster, "Apologize!" and the Republicans will start infighting over what Perry should have said, yada yada...Perry might simply choke.

I don't want to hear Obama, period. Been there too many times doing that. There's nothing "new" Obama can hatch that isn't absolutely revolting. For that reason, I'd rather hear from the "new" guy about what's up his sleeve.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 15, 2011 05:02 PM (lpWVn)

159 151: I agree but the establishment GOP want to maintain the status quo and if they are in charge of it they have no problem with oversized government.

Posted by:

160 >>I agree but the establishment GOP want to maintain the status quo and
if they are in charge of it they have no problem with over-sized
government.

This.

Posted by: sickinmass at October 15, 2011 05:05 PM (1rflU)

161 156.....daily campaign of reminders to each elected offical of who they work for and what we expect of them.
You should send me instead.

Posted by: Cattle Prod at October 15, 2011 05:05 PM (D5636)

162 10 speaking of California, don't they have significant oil there even without offshore drilling?

Increasing offshore drilling will hurt the economy and increase unemployment because it will discourage investment in green jobs.

Posted by: I am Governor Jerry Brown, my aura smiles and never frowns at October 15, 2011 05:05 PM (2jQGY)

163 #137 R's are just D's with legs.
You just have to wait and see if they walk to the right or to the left.
--
I've read here there's no such thing as an Independent. Tell that to Michael Savage.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 15, 2011 05:05 PM (lpWVn)

164 discourage investment in NONEXISTING green jobs.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 15, 2011 05:06 PM (lpWVn)

165 So when the Sarah fans get done letting everyone else know this was her idea first, they'll all line up behind Perry, since he's a candidate and she's not...

Right??

Posted by: BurtTC at October 15, 2011 05:07 PM (Gc/Qi)

166 Other than that it's awful, and Perry stutters in debates.
And Perry's plan does not teach the children about how Christopher Columbus raped and pillaged the superior Native American culture.

Posted by: Stupid School Principal Who Can't be Fired....thanks Teachers Union at October 15, 2011 05:07 PM (OWjjx)

167 115
I haven't got time to read all the comments. So, I assume that someone
has pointed out that everybody here called Perry's "plan" bullshit when
it was Gov. Palin's POLICY.






Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at October 15, 2011 04:42 PM (NLQse)

What bizarre bullshit. Where did you hear that, through your fillings? We were all chanting "drill baby drill" with her in 2008.
She's not running though, and Perry is.

Posted by: stace at October 15, 2011 05:08 PM (lYlx9)

168 153
This John Holdren story is too, too much. We've been railing on this guy
for the past three years and now we hear that Romney is linked to him?

?

Posted by: willow channeleing cnn networks at October 15, 2011 05:09 PM (h+qn8)

169
Investment in new technology is smart. Oil company profits ride the technology wagon every damn day. Bad mouthing new technology investments, in solar and oil and every other thing that one can convince the venture boys to back, is just plain counter-productive and a sure path to getting our asses handed to us by countries that do invest in new tech. So, on point #3 of the perry plan, I'd have to say Oh Yes It Does Too if you scrape away the grit and take a gander at any hunk of gear on the rig or back at the lab, and good! Hate the messenger, not the F*ing message! Smart companies, and countries, invest heavily in future technologies while leveraging the present set of capabilities that they possess.

Posted by: Errol at October 15, 2011 05:09 PM (vewos)

170 Exactly how does this help the LGBT community?

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell at October 15, 2011 05:09 PM (le5qc)

171 Next time Romney goes after Perry with statements like "we did it for the children" or defending SS, Perry just needs to respond "There you go sounding like a democrat again." Do it again, again, and again. Do it until Romney has nothing else to say.

Posted by: macintx at October 15, 2011 05:10 PM (ucs8Y)

172 when
it was Gov. Palin's POLICY.

Guess what, it's Gov. Perry's POLICY too. We drill everywhere, including offshore.

Posted by: stace at October 15, 2011 05:11 PM (lYlx9)

173 @didn't take long - very likely. Perry could just refuse to debate unless he gets a choice of moderator and format. The press will eat anyone alive (or try to) for challenging Obama. But I just don't see it having that big of an affect. Obama is a SCOAMF's SCOAMF. As long as Perry is just OK in any debates he will do fine. I especially relish the thought of JEF having to stand on stage with another Texan and realize that he was just an aberration between the two.

Posted by: LTC Graham at October 15, 2011 05:11 PM (2tjWo)

174 She's not running though, and Perry is.
But she changed her status on facebook from Republican to conservative....so it is only time before she goes third party. And of course she would win.!!ELEVENTY!!11!!

Posted by: Poster Who Is A Big Palin Fan......Not A Big Fan of Reality at October 15, 2011 05:14 PM (OWjjx)

175 I agree but the establishment GOP want to maintain the status quo and if they are in charge of it they have no problem with over-sized government.
John Boehner and Mitch McConnell will be in charge of the house and senate again, if they get majorities.
Congress will not push for reform, they will push to maintain the status quo. We need a president who will push them.

Posted by: Entropy at October 15, 2011 05:14 PM (dn7cw)

176 Hate the messenger, not the F*ing message! Smart companies, and countries, invest heavily in future technologies while leveraging the present set of capabilities that they possess.
Posted by: Errol at October 15, 2011 05:09 PM (vewos)
We already did invest heavily in solar, we invented it. The chinese sent us a thank you note.

Posted by: robtr at October 15, 2011 05:15 PM (MtwBb)

177 For those of you who haven't heard it yet, listen to the Rush link in the sidebar. He addresses the fact that he's getting criticism for not yet endorsing a candidate. He then goes on to talk about several candidates, starting out saying when he gets around to it he'll endorse a conservative. Then he says Romney isn't a conservative. He goes on to talk about a number of the other candidates, leaving you with the impression he can't or won't endorse any of them either. Interestingly, I don't recall him mentioning Perry's name at all.

Clear enough? It is to me.



Posted by: BurtTC at October 15, 2011 05:16 PM (Gc/Qi)

178 170 Chemicals for surgery, lubricants of all sorts, fabric softeners and hair products?

Posted by: Errol at October 15, 2011 05:17 PM (vewos)

179 rdbrewer posted headline comment multi-mouth Mitt cartoon, LOL, "Stop me when you've heard something you like."

Yes, Limbaugh knows the pulse of his VOTING audience. And we're not buying into Mitt's potus fantasy just because the bipartisan Leadership establishment elitists confine the "choice" to "electable" Mitt.

Yes, Mitt's the only candidate the anti-conservative Rockefeller-Republicans will elect, if that's "electable".

Posted by: didn't take long at October 15, 2011 05:17 PM (lpWVn)

180 173,I bet that you will see more passion when Perry goes against Obama. In the primary so far, Perry seems to go after Romney more and not much other candidates.

Posted by: LAI at October 15, 2011 05:17 PM (eRpKn)

181 It is not that "independents" do not exist. What is true is that the "independents" that flip-flop back and forth between the parties do not exist to the extent the MFM advertises them.

Technically anyone who is not registered with either party is an "independent". In States like mine that have open primaries most people are not registered with either party. Nationwide so-called experts put the number at roughly 30% split between R-D-I.

All that being said just about everyone votes for one party or the other consistently. It is only in wave elections like RR (rare) where some switch over.

What most people really mean when they talk about attracting the flip-floppers that they call independents is really the "undecided". Now these are the truly clueless dumb shits who shouldn't be allowed to vote to begin with because they are too stupid to exist. But luckily there really are not very many of these.

What really decides elections is energizing the people that normally vote for your party and getting them to the polls vote.

Posted by: Vic at October 15, 2011 05:18 PM (M9Ie6)

182 Interestingly, I don't recall him mentioning Perry's name at all.

Clear enough? It is to me.



Posted by: BurtTC




He actually did name Perry in what I heard.

Posted by: macintx at October 15, 2011 05:18 PM (ucs8Y)

183 #173 Graham

who's JEF?